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www.youtube.com/watch USA is 4 Trillion dollars in debt. Change is coming....
Sorry tat this is O.T., but I feel that this should be made aware of. I will understand if you delete this post.
Knowing that the National Debt is so high.... how on earth can Bush sign a $555 Billion dollar bill to fund the Iraqi war???? news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071..._pr_wh/bush
ps:oh yea.... if you get as far as part 4, it gets abit too religious for my liking, but never-the-less very informative to where USA is really at financially.
Sorry tat this is O.T., but I feel that this should be made aware of. I will understand if you delete this post.
Knowing that the National Debt is so high.... how on earth can Bush sign a $555 Billion dollar bill to fund the Iraqi war???? news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071..._pr_wh/bush
ps:oh yea.... if you get as far as part 4, it gets abit too religious for my liking, but never-the-less very informative to where USA is really at financially.
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Re: OFF TOPIC: The Financial Crash of America
Thu, December 27, 2007 - 9:18 AMA shit storm is coming, I can feel it in my bones. We will turn rapidly into a third world nation but unlike those nations so many of us look down upon, we won't even have national health care. our citizens are already dying for lack of health care. many of those incapable of taking care of themselves usually because of severe mental illness wander the streets of cities aimlessly, dying on the concrete from the cold. Most of us walk by thinking, “why don’t they get a job”. Everywhere I've been out west this summer - 14,000 miles and 13 states - real estate agents mention the "third house" phenomenon, usually shaking their heads. The ultra rich have to put their vast wealth somewhere. we virtually have no independent journalism any longer and frankly no one pays attention to the little bit of information that is out there. Like moths who assume the colors of poisonous moths to protect themselves, our undereducated and severely under informed masses call themselves "republicans" in an obvious effort to affect the trappings of status when in fact the force they so ally themselves with works steadily and cynically to destroy them. I am 47 years old and have seen this happen right before my own eyes. The cynicism of our so called elected representatives reaches such heights one has to look up so far it can strain your neck – just look at this war and this blatantly Orwellian “war on terror” – my God man you could take whole pages out of 1984 and I would defy your to see any difference from the present state of our nation. We even have Soma which the masses can take to alleviate the natural, human agony of living in a vacant, materialist society under enslaving debt, having no meaningful human work and increasingly shallow relationships – no problem pop a Soma – I mean Prozac.
And this very much is an issue of consciousness because we have created all this ourselves with our consciousness. Aliens didn’t come down from outer space and force this upon us. We voted for Bush, twice. Hitler was elected. Walmart is the largest employer in the country: if you do not recognize that as the headlights of a train coming down the tunnel right at you, then your fearless or wealthy.
If aliens did come down here what the hell would they think with our wealthy elite buying third homes which they virtually never set foot in, while others among us die from laying on concrete out in the cold or lack of health care? I think they would ask, “where did you humans get the idea that taking care of each other should be based on this “for profit free market system of yours”? In every advanced civilization throughout the universe it is understood that the strong take care of the weak – this is one of the most basic tenants of advanced civilization. Only the crudest of creatures prey upon their own weak members. -
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Re: OFF TOPIC: The Financial Crash of America
Mon, February 4, 2008 - 10:22 AMThe current system cannot sustain itself - it's an open-ended loop. We expect to continue to make more profit and deplete natural resources at a growing rate.
Those resources are limited, but we don't seem to recognize that yet. The oceans are overfished, toxins keep building up and so on. We cannot continue down this path indefinitely.
Those that recognize this and do something about it, may have a chance of turning things around on a small scale, but unless the majority of people on this planet 'get it', there's going to be hell to pay. Let's not even get into the overpopulation issues.... -
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Re: OFF TOPIC: The Financial Crash of America
Mon, February 4, 2008 - 2:17 PM"The most effective means of social control is persuading a captive people that they are free." - Albert Camus
Once again, the cycles of history rear their [fill in the blank] heads. Have you read the book The Fourth Turning, by William Strauss and Neil Howe? It is very interesting. Talks about four different eras that cycle through history over and over. Our current "Unraveling era" is in the process of ending. The next "Crisis era" is about to begin. Look at history:
"During an Unraveling, an obliging society serves purposeful individuals, and even good people find it hard to connect with their community. The approaching specter of public disaster ultimately elicits a mix of paralysis and apathy that would have been unthinkable half a saeculum* earlier. People can now feel, but collectively can no longer do.
"The mood of the current era seems new to nearly every living American but is not new to history. Around World War I, America steeped in reform and fundamentalism amidst a flood tide of crime, alcohol, immigration, political corruption, and circus trials. The 1850s likewise simmered with moral righteousness, shortening tempers, and multiplying 'mavericks.' It was a decade, says historian David Donald, in which 'the authority of all government in America was at a low point.' Entering the 1760s, the colonies felt rejuvenated in spirit but reeled from violence, mobs, insurrections, and paranoia over the corruption of official authority."
*saeculum = about the length of a human lifetime, 90 to 100 years.
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